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Sunday, March 19, 2017

Don't talk to the media

In tonight's Darkstream, I answered the Blonde in the Belly of the Beast's question concerning whether she should go on The Daily Show or not.

And then I responded to two requests for interviews that came in via email while I was recording it.

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45 Comments:

Blogger Jose March 19, 2017 9:04 PM  

In case of doubt, learn from Peter Schiff:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9LNP-yXXUc

Blogger Durandel Almiras March 19, 2017 9:15 PM  

I hope she takes your advice.

Blogger Lazarus March 19, 2017 9:16 PM  

If someone is sufficiently notable to attract the attention of the Media, they are sufficiently notable to ignore the Media.

Blogger Beau March 19, 2017 9:26 PM  

If someone is sufficiently notable to attract the attention of the Media, they are sufficiently notable to ignore the Media.

That's a keeper, thanks.

Anonymous Looking Glass March 19, 2017 9:38 PM  

It also needs to be noted that getting Press really won't help your bottom line. So even going into the lion's den is simply not valuable to you.

Blogger MrPaules March 19, 2017 10:05 PM  

I'm not just impressed with the Blond, Tara, and Brittney, I'm overwhelmed. Brains, youth, and beauty is a powerful combination. The procreative potential alone informs me that these ladies are quite literally the future. While old farts (guilty!) crab about hypotheticals the youth are awake to the reality. I might be reduced to an old-timer limping along in the rear carrying a shotgun, but I'll do my best to honor the motif.

Blogger Deplorable March 19, 2017 10:07 PM  

Not sure if anyone else has noticed, but there's a youtuber (Judeo Christ) uploading Darkstreams and some Cernovich content.

Anonymous Looking Glass March 19, 2017 10:08 PM  

It's important to remember that the Media is a play on your Vanity & Ego. Humans tend to crave attention, and what do we view Media Exposure as? Attention, because we've seen people on the cover of magazines and on video.

But it's not attention. It's a cold, dissecting microscope, but you don't know that until you're under it. Don't play the marionette for forces that are beyond your capacity to control.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents March 19, 2017 10:28 PM  

The Daily Show? Snarky cool-kid-wannabes enforcing the standard narrative? I don't even have to view the darkstream. No, no, and no.

Anonymous Anonymous March 19, 2017 10:33 PM  

Whoever is LARPing "SupremeReader" on KIA @ Reddit is in very dangerous fucking territories of pissing off the 13th to an extent that will be Biblical in its execution.

Get the message out to reign your Hounds in, Murdoch is where it's at.

I repeat, and only once: The pressure point is Murdoch and Fox, not #Gamergate 2.0 LARPing bullshit for you little oiks.

Get the message out, and fast.

Anonymous Dredd March 19, 2017 10:36 PM  

Whoever is LARPing "SupremeReader" on KIA @ Reddit is in very dangerous fucking territories of pissing off the 13th to an extent that will be Biblical in its execution.

Get the message out to reign your feeble 'Hounds' in, Murdoch is where it's at.

I repeat, and only once: The pressure point is Murdoch and Fox, not #Gamergate 2.0 LARPing bullshit for you little oiks.

Get the message out, and fast.

OpenID randkoch March 19, 2017 10:42 PM  

FWIW: Megan McArdle: Don't Ever Appear on the Daily Show
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2014-09-23/don-t-ever-appear-on-the-daily-show

And, yeah, also agree with Lazarus @ #3.

Blogger The Other Robot March 19, 2017 10:44 PM  

When will the book download? I have been waiting patiently, but now I am getting impatient!

Blogger F.D. Stephens March 19, 2017 10:49 PM  

This is not just good advice; it's the only advice to which anyone should listen. An essential video. And free. Companies pay good money to PR firms to hear this.

Every PR firm that trains people like CEOs to deal with the media starts with one rule, and they it repeat over and over until you're sick of it. That rule is this:

"No journalist is your friend."

Not one.

Anonymous Eduardo March 19, 2017 11:41 PM  

"These secret kings gammas that gonna have their super secret strategy how they would handle it and how they would do it right"

There are no magic tricks

I laughed.

It is sort of funny, but I heard that the newspapers didn't covered MJ's non-guilty veridict because the MONEY, the millions and millions of dollar were on Guilty.

Jornalism... what a bunch of dog turds under the hot sun it is.

Blogger Kona Commuter March 19, 2017 11:47 PM  

I'm astounded that people even entertain the thought of going on MSM to be interviewed.

Milo was exceptional at it. I mean exceptional. All his interviews and appearances were with hostile people and he won.... until he didn't. Fortunately Milo's personal brand was big enough to survive.

Are you better than Milo? Because if you're not (even if you are just as good) the LEFT will utterly destroy you.

Blogger Cynic In Chief March 19, 2017 11:47 PM  

I'd respond to any media inquiries, with a GIF of their Twitter profile image in flames with the text "Burn in Hell" below. Then ignore, or respond to the next message with the one of them in the gas chamber with my profile pic pressing the button.

The media is your enemy. Unless it's one of our media outlets (such as Red Ice Radio), ignore or only respond with troll images.

Anonymous Eduardo March 19, 2017 11:56 PM  

@15

Exposure.

Almost all of us grew up thinking that the TV was the Big Stage. So when the Big Stage calls you to do a gig, you absolutely start dreaming of being a big star!

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Vox is short? screw that, I am short! XD

I wonder just the number of jokes that would be pelted at me. Here in Brazil people already make fun of me when I refer to being a child as "when I was small".

Blogger scimitar March 20, 2017 12:23 AM  

This!!

Anonymous Tanjil Bren March 20, 2017 12:50 AM  

"If someone is sufficiently notable to attract the attention of the Media, they are sufficiently notable to ignore the Media."

Absolutely true.

Unfortunately, media flattery mostly gets them everywhere.

Ego can be a darned hard itch not to scratch.

Anonymous Icicle March 20, 2017 12:53 AM  

Vox is just fun-sized.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU02G3EA8Ck

With Italian subtitles!

Anonymous One Deplorable DT March 20, 2017 1:21 AM  

Don't play with rattlesnakes.
Don't throw rocks at bears.
Don't talk to the media.

Why is one so difficult to remember?

Blogger Hail Jesus March 20, 2017 1:38 AM  

@15 not true, if milo were simply more cautious he would be doing fine.

His fall was probably coordinated anyways, since the 80s pedophiles have been trying to win sympathy.

Anonymous JAG March 20, 2017 3:16 AM  

The Gab reply of (paraphrasing) "we don't interview with fake news outlets" to be the best standard response.

Essentially, "go away fake news shitters" should be as standard when dealing with the media as "lawyer" is when dealing with cops.

Anonymous lurker March 20, 2017 3:47 AM  

If someone is sufficiently notable to attract the attention of the Media, they are sufficiently notable to ignore the Media.

It's not just notability. Remember the interview with "Ketchup" the female-bodied OWS supporter by Colbert? That essentially lit the Bat-Signal for mainstream liberals and progressives that laughing at/hating the OWS crowd and cheering their eventual suppression was socially acceptable. The useful idiots at Zucotti had done their duty and the media played their part in deposing of them.

Blogger Pteronarcyd March 20, 2017 5:06 AM  

There are times that it can be useful to talk to the news media, but no one on the Right should ever think of going on "The Daily Show," because it is not a news show.

Blogger VD March 20, 2017 5:49 AM  

There are times that it can be useful to talk to the news media

What part of "don't ever talk to the news media" do you find hard to understand. Seriously, you morons with your dreams of secret stardom are astonishingly thick-headed.

There are no times it is useful; although there are very occasionally times it is unavoidable.

Blogger Astalnar March 20, 2017 5:58 AM  

Is there any chance to improve the volume? You always sound so quiet in comparison to any other video.

Anonymous Seth S March 20, 2017 5:59 AM  

"In case of doubt, learn from Peter Schiff:"

He described the process quite well. I thought I'd mention when I saw this comment that Peter Schiff's podcast is how I discovered Stefan's show, and then through Stefan I found Vox.

I wish Peter would come around to some of Vox's thinking on free trade. He is an influential guy to persuade if you would be inclined to try VD.

Blogger Buybuydandavis March 20, 2017 7:42 AM  

How funny.
I responded to her video by relaying what I had heard from Vox earlier on the subject.

Blogger Some Dude March 20, 2017 7:49 AM  

Remember the media is largely subsidised by the secret police and Zion. So its an intricate and probably key part of the Illusion of the gentiles.

It is not a tool. Its a force of oppression. Its like going up to a CIA/Mossad (same thing) agent and telling him theres a terrorist next door - he will turn you in for foiling a scheme.

Blogger Some Dude March 20, 2017 7:52 AM  

An unsettling thought - every single whistleblower, patriot and researcher or real invesitagtive reporter that stumbled on anything and gave it to the media probably got referred on to the secret police.

Many decent people are probably in solitary confinement.

These paedophile rings around Franklin, Nebraska were exposed long ago and everyone that came forward got locked up.

Blogger Some Dude March 20, 2017 7:53 AM  

Therefore the media should be avoided in the cases of handing over intel and documents, not just interviews.

Blogger Pteronarcyd March 20, 2017 9:48 AM  

VD wrote:
"What part of "don't ever talk to the news media" do you find hard to understand. Seriously, you morons with your dreams of secret stardom are astonishingly thick-headed."

My successful experience trumps your rhetoric. It has nothing to do with stardom, and evwrything to do with protecting my clients by nipping an SJW-slanted story in the bud with facts and science. My best successes resulted in reporters dropping their intended sensationalistic stories for another topic altogether.

Anonymous BerryTR March 20, 2017 10:06 AM  

"My successful experience trumps your rhetoric. It has nothing to do with stardom, and evwrything to do with protecting my clients by nipping an SJW-slanted story in the bud with facts and science. My best successes resulted in reporters dropping their intended sensationalistic stories for another topic altogether."

Trying to explain how to engage successfully with the media to someone who simply does not understand the media is a waste of time. You are waisting your breath. VD's media profile is extraordinarily low and as a result he as a very skewed and unrealistic understanding of how it works.

Anonymous Dan March 20, 2017 10:52 AM  

I think Pteronarcyd and VD can both be right.

On the one hand, don't walk into a trap.

On the other hand, Pteronarcyd seems to have a job in PR or crisis management. If you or your company is already under attack, you have strike back, right?

During the election campaign, striking back was utterly crucial. As one example, consider the amazingly orchestrated hit on Trump with the Billy Bush tape. Immediately a dozen or more women showed up in the media to make accusations with astonishing coordination.

Trump never stopped fighting and memorably lined up all the women from Bill's past in the second debate and created a new narrative immediately. Trump fighting back nearly alone and with superhuman will on those dreary October days as his 'friends' one by one turned their fire on him was his finest hour, IMO. I grieved when I saw what looked like the perfect hit and its apparent effect, but Trump fought and fought, engaging with every media outlet.



Anonymous Dan March 20, 2017 12:25 PM  

There is way to talk a hostile media if one must.

The way to do it is this:
Develop a simple soundbites or two that say your message and which you would be happy to have reported. And then repeat them like a broken record. They ask about 'A'? Repeat your soundbite. They ask about 'B'. Repeat your soundbite. They ask about 'C'. Repeat your soundbite.

Don't answer their questions, but stick to your soundbite. It may make for a dull interview but if you do this, what can they edit?

Folks like KellyAnne Conway stick to Trump's lines. When asked tough questions, they just steer it right back to the simple soundbites they have planned. They don't try to get clever or nuanced. They just keep on the same lines over and over again.

This is okay because most people can remember only 1 or 2 things anyway. People with a mastery of PR seem to do this.

Cernovich explained to me when I met him the following approach:
He will have a things that the media doesn't want to report. Then when the media asks him 'A' he will respond with something like, "Why aren't you reporting on the hundreds of rapes by Muslim men in Rotherham?" Good luck to them with a quote like that. Repeat like a broken record. "Why aren't you reporting on [horrible thing that totally disrupts the narrative]?"


Anonymous Crew March 20, 2017 12:28 PM  

Academic criticism of the Alt-Right's infatuation of Jane Austen:

http://www.chronicle.com/article/Alt-Right-Jane-Austen/239435

While dialectic usually loses in the Meme wars, perhaps a better set of idols is needed.

Anonymous Trump-Democrat March 20, 2017 1:22 PM  

What part of "don't ever talk to the news media" do you find hard to understand. Seriously, you morons with your dreams of secret stardom are astonishingly thick-headed.

There are no times it is useful; although there are very occasionally times it is unavoidable.


If I were in demand and in a position to talk to the media I would make myself widely available and try it out and see how it goes.


especially if I felt strongly about certain things.


regardless of what they do, it might help me to better establish and hold and expand philosophical positions the world needs

Blogger Mocheirge March 20, 2017 2:37 PM  

Pteronarcyd wrote:My successful experience trumps your rhetoric. It has nothing to do with stardom, and evwrything to do with protecting my clients by nipping an SJW-slanted story in the bud with facts and science. My best successes resulted in reporters dropping their intended sensationalistic stories for another topic altogether.

That's a helluva lot different than a TV talking head approaching you personally, saying, "We want to hear your story." But kudos to you for stopping some SJW hits; most people are not wise/cunning enough despite their egos saying otherwise.

Blogger Scott Birch March 20, 2017 3:05 PM  

".. The world needs."
So modest. You must be some kind of king. How come I've never heard of you?

Blogger Pteronarcyd March 20, 2017 3:56 PM  

Dan wrote:
"Pteronarcyd seems to have a job in PR or crisis management."

I am a consulting ecologist managing complex environmental investigations of contaminated sites. My clients' detractors tend to find it easy and productive to manufacture supposed crises, which a corrupt and incompetent EPA will more often than not cheer on. I find it easy to quash a hit piece because most environmental beat reporters are scientific lightweights, their questioning makes their intended hit piece transparent, and no one understands the science behind my investigations better than me. My favored outcome of any such interview is the reporter abandons his story, because the facts I present put the clients' site into perspective -- not very interesting in terms of posing any significant risk to human or ecological health.

Mocheirge wrote:
"That's a helluva lot different than a TV talking head approaching you personally, saying, "We want to hear your story."

My experience is with print media, but the reporter always wants to know my story. Specifically, they are always looking for me to tell a tale that will backup the slanted story they have planned to tell. Unfortunately for them and their planned story, scientific facts rarely comport with EPA's hype.

Dan wrote:
"I think Pteronarcyd and VD can both be right."

Although one can get the impression from "SJWs Always Lie" that Vox endorses lying as an effective form of rhetoric, Vox has acknowledged that the best rhetoric is rooted in truth. Accordingly, I suggest he modify his "Don't ever talk to the news media" to something like "It is rarely beneficial to talk to the news media, and should only be done if one is knowledgeable and prepared." Vox's formulation sacrifices reality for a desireable stated simplicity, and his formulation applies to most, who are neither particularly knowledgeable or prepared.

Blogger ViciousCreep March 20, 2017 4:01 PM  

I took a bit of convincing because I was so proud of being a pixel on television once. I'm just glad I figured out how stupid it was to "get your message out" by being used as a tool of those who specifically aim to destroy your message and the messenger.

Anonymous Trump-Democrat March 20, 2017 4:29 PM  

those who specifically aim to destroy your message and the messenger

in sports good teams are able to win on the road despite not having home-field advantage

Blogger ViciousCreep March 20, 2017 10:10 PM  

And they make good money for the 'opponents'. Your point is taken, but there is a real question about just how implacably you mean to oppose a purveyor of misinformation. For me it wouldn't extend to the point of, say, passing up a chance to puff up my ego. But that's my own moral standard. ;)

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