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Sunday, March 19, 2017

Hence the finesse

This is why the non-denial denials of spying on Donald Trump have all been focused on whether Obama personally went to Trump Tower and spied on him. Because apparently, the God-Emperor was entirely right. He was being spied on by the NSA.
Sheriff Arpaio and Chief Investigator Zullo have identified dozens of entries at various addresses, including both Trump Tower in New York City and Mar-a-Lago in Palm Beach, Florida, under which Donald Trump was apparently under NSA electronic surveillance from 2004, during President George W. Bush’s term of office, through 2009, the first year of President Obama’s presidency.

Electronic surveillance of Donald Trump was listed in the database for the following companies, locations, and dates:

Trump International
1 Central Park, NYC, NY
2008

Trump World Tower
845 United Nations Plaza, NYC, NY
No Date

Trump Tower SAL
108 Central Park, NYC, NY
2007
And it was obvious he was being spied on by the NSA and the FBI anyhow. These days, we're all under surveillance 24-7.

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41 Comments:

Blogger Silly But True March 19, 2017 7:40 PM  

Does anyone reasonably believe the Obama administration wasn't listening in on the Donald Trump campaign.

They were listening in on his calls. They had any emails.

Blogger Lazarus March 19, 2017 7:40 PM  

Plus:

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes confirmed on Sunday that he's seen no evidence of collusion between President Trump's campaign and Russia.

Blogger Pteronarcyd March 19, 2017 7:45 PM  

The Leftist spin on this story has set off my bullshit detector from day one. It has never been credible. I lump it into my file containing other fake news, like anthropogenic global warming, and don't lose any sleep over it. Watching Leftists try to defend it is, however, amusing.

Anonymous JAG March 19, 2017 7:48 PM  

Pteronarcyd wrote:The Leftist spin on this story has set off my bullshit detector from day one. It has never been credible. I lump it into my file containing other fake news, like anthropogenic global warming, and don't lose any sleep over it. Watching Leftists try to defend it is, however, amusing.

Anytime a leftist speaks about any subject it should set off your bullshit detector.

Blogger Jack Ward March 19, 2017 7:52 PM  

Orwell's vison of 1984 may have been under stated. Gawd, what a world we have here. Well, tomorrow I get to start the Corroding Empire. Maybe. I'm deeply into Six Expressions of Death. This thing is un-Godly good. Too good for the likes of us Ilk. Not! And, some people wonder why Castalia House is flourishing.

Blogger Lazarus March 19, 2017 7:53 PM  

So when does Trump get to see the NSA data on Obama?

Blogger Jose March 19, 2017 7:55 PM  

It wasn't him, it was the civil service:

https://youtu.be/BZz9o-GNikg?t=55s

Blogger Lance E March 19, 2017 7:56 PM  

They seem to be saying it ended in 2009, which I find hard to believe. Where did all the 2016-2017 leaks come from - or did the Slim Blog and Bezos Blog literally fabricate those?

Blogger SciVo March 19, 2017 7:59 PM  

They've gone so crazy. Can't even admit the obvious.

I'm revising my prediction and in CWII, legacy media offices will go pathetically undisturbed. No one cares.

Blogger SciVo March 19, 2017 8:02 PM  

Well, they might eventually sufficiently annoy people with their lies.

Blogger JACIII March 19, 2017 8:09 PM  

Jose wrote:It wasn't him, it was the civil service:



Brilliant! It is painful to witness how far the entertainments of the West have deteriorated in such a short span of time.

Blogger Kona Commuter March 19, 2017 8:18 PM  

I pointed out to Trump haters that those in positions of authority when denying the "wire tapping" were being very careful with their wording.

As an outsider (not a US citizen), I'm astounded at all the heat Trump is getting

Anonymous Eduardo March 19, 2017 8:22 PM  

Oh noes! How could this be! Barry could never do it, it is not like he didn't do it before but HOW DARE YOU EVEN PRETEND LET ALONE ACCUSE...

*runs out of energy...*

*recharging...*

Anonymous The Observer March 19, 2017 8:30 PM  

"So, did you break the window?"

"Your Honour, I never touched it..."

Blogger Al From Bay Shore March 19, 2017 8:31 PM  

The national government is too big, too complex, and distant. The surveillance of Trump is merely a consequence of such. We shoulda' stuck with the Articles of Confederation for that plan of government is TRUE limited government. The Articles created a national government that derived power from the state legislatures. The Constitution, on the other hand, created a national government that derived power from itself.

Anonymous Eduardo March 19, 2017 8:37 PM  

Whatever you do, you must wrestle the beast down now. Before it gets out of control and you guys end up like Europe in terms of government dynamics. It is funny how Vox's paranoia over Government are now my own!

Now in honor of Chuck Berry... go Johnny!

Blogger Lovekraft March 19, 2017 8:40 PM  

Watch the home and small business security market to grow. Opportunity for people who have tech skills once people realize it is better to spend that money than have every conversation in some database.

People expect some general surveillance - parks, stadiums etc - but they will have to take a stand re their own property and families. If the state tries to intervene or fubars this push, watch another blow up.

Blogger Lovekraft March 19, 2017 8:41 PM  

By 'blow up' I mean public protest.

Blogger Eric Mueller March 19, 2017 8:42 PM  

He said at the last rally that he had some info he was going to drop in front of the committee. I figured he was going to let the traitors ramble on about "no evidence!" before smacking them all in the as with THE EVIDENCE. Idiots. The God Emperor is playing a long game of chess. They're playing a short game of the news cycle.

Blogger Beau March 19, 2017 9:36 PM  

These days, we're all under surveillance 24-7.

Good. They will hear about Jesus, the only name given under heaven whereby we must be saved. They are hearing about lost broken lives mended: Repentance, redemption, reconciliation, faith, holiness, hope, joy, deliverance from evil, 5x5. I'd laugh to hear back from surveillance one of their operators got saved by eavesdropping. There is nothing hidden that will not be uncovered; let them hear of Jesus at work in our lives. Turn up the volume.

Anonymous Conker March 19, 2017 9:48 PM  

What's worst of all about the "no evidence" narrative is the media's specific definition of wiretapping. They behave like autistic retards and narrow down surveillance to a physical wiretap on Trump's landline phone in Trump Tower. No one, and I mean no one, uses the term "wiretap" to mean a physical wiretap on a phoneline in this day and age where the NSA can intercept all electronic communications at the service provider. The media certainly don't use the term "spear phishing" when instead they use "hacking" instead, probably because it would expose how big of a retard Podesta and the DNC are when it comes to basic internet scams.

What's worse is when Senator Nunes responded "no" to a question if there was evidence of a "physical" wiretap in the report given by the DOJ. If that isn't a prime example of "depends what your definition of is is", then I don't know what is...is. When all of this is over, I hope that heads will roll in the senate and house over collusion and obstruction of justice after this is over.

Anonymous Hesiod March 19, 2017 9:48 PM  

Amen, Beau. Jesus is our Lord and Savior.

Blogger Wanda Sherratt March 19, 2017 10:01 PM  

21 - It's the same sort of word-chopping they tried to pull in the years following 9/11, when every Muslim outrage was dismissed as "not connected with al-Qaeda" and thus, "not terrorism". I think Mark Steyn pointed out early on that this was an attempt to limit terrorists to some exquisitely narrow group of individuals, all carrying "al-Qaeda, Inc." ID cards. Muslim suicide bombers in Fiji, Indonesia, Bombay, London, etc. simply didn't move the terrorism dial because they didn't fit the very carefully constructed criteria. That facade persisted for quite a few years, until even the media wearied of trying to whitewash a fence that was growing 50 feet higher every year.

Anonymous A Most Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents March 19, 2017 10:23 PM  

@17
Watch the home and small business security market to grow. Opportunity for people who have tech skills once people realize it is better to spend that money than have every conversation in some database.

Do you talk with your cell phone in the room? Is your cell phone on the bedside table? Unless the battery is removed, it's capable of being a bug.

TV's with voice activation connected to the internet can also be spying on you. Webcams with audio in high end kitchen appliances? Yep.

The internet of things is very hackable.

Anonymous A Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents March 19, 2017 10:25 PM  

@15 Al from Bay Shore
The national government is too big, too complex, and distant.

Also known as "too big to fail".

Blogger Orville March 19, 2017 11:26 PM  

The wife and I finally got around to watching "Snowden" last night. Yes I know that it is a Hollyweird production, and I'm definitely not a fan of Oliver Stone, but it was fair representation of the problem.

@24 Do you talk with your cell phone in the room? Is your cell phone on the bedside table? Unless the battery is removed, it's capable of being a bug.

The wife was particularly disturbed about cell phones. This was her first big exposure to the police state.

Blogger Mountain Man March 20, 2017 12:12 AM  

With some of the familial connections that I have - 24/7 surveillance is pretty much a given.
So for good measure I will often remove the tape and say into the speaker on the phone: “ fuck you NSA"

Anonymous Satan's Hamster March 20, 2017 12:19 AM  

"The internet of things is very hackable."

Did you see the recent news reports about people who were unable to even turn off their stove when Amazon's 'The Cloud' went down for a few hours? Most of the 'Internet Of Things' magic seems to happen on some 'The Cloud' server. Oh, the laughs the hackers will have once they break into one of those servers and can now control millions of peoples' 'smart homes'.

(And you can be pretty sure that the NSA and half a dozen foreign TLAs already have)

Anonymous Icicle March 20, 2017 12:28 AM  

under which Donald Trump was apparently under NSA electronic surveillance from 2004, during President George W. Bush’s term of office, through 2009, the first year of President Obama’s presidency.

Under what grounds? "We feel like it" grounds? Also notice the dates; way before Trump's current run for president.

Still wondering how (or even if) they co-opt politicians?

All those pedophiles and degenerates being moved into place is looking more and more plausible.


I knew it.

Anonymous RC March 20, 2017 1:08 AM  

I hope the God-Emperor some day believes and acknowledges the heroism of Snowden. The evil must be expunged.

Blogger Elder Son March 20, 2017 2:11 AM  

None of those agencies are going to go away, unless the American people make them go away. After all, Trump is just a president.

Blogger YIH March 20, 2017 3:56 AM  

And it was obvious he was being spied on by the NSA and the FBI anyhow. These days, we're all under surveillance 24-7.
Every last character and pic on this blog is sitting on a server in Utah: https://infogalactic.com/info/Utah_Data_Center
I wouldn't be surprised even all of https://infogalactic.com/info/CoComment (or as it was commonly nicknamed, CuckooComment, because of it's notorious glitchyness) is there as well.
Pleasant dreams!

Blogger Some Dude March 20, 2017 4:32 AM  

Under surveillance from (((them))).

Anonymous Discard March 20, 2017 5:55 AM  

8. Lance E: From the link, I gathered that the data that was revealed covered only certain years, ending in 2009. No telling what happened after that.

Blogger James Dixon March 20, 2017 6:02 AM  

> These days, we're all under surveillance 24-7.

Yep. Every cell phone call, every email, every land line call. Your web browsing. Etc., etc., etc. Any and all electronic communication is being monitored and stored.

Whether physical letters and day to day conversations are being monitored and stored is an open question, but depending on your circumstances it's best to assume they are.

Blogger James Dixon March 20, 2017 6:04 AM  

> No telling what happened after that.

Hannity has been all over this story and had guest who claim there were at least two FISA warrants for the relevant times.

Anonymous BBGKB March 20, 2017 8:01 AM  

"So, did you break the window?" "Your Honour, I never touched it..."

Did you beat your wife with a 5 iron? No Your Honor, I was just puttered around.

Blogger Basil Makedon March 20, 2017 10:39 AM  

The Battlestar Galactica reboot was prescient. No networked computers -- particularly not the defense mainframes.

Blogger OneWingedShark March 20, 2017 11:38 AM  

Al From Bay Shore wrote:The national government is too big, too complex, and distant. The surveillance of Trump is merely a consequence of such. We shoulda' stuck with the Articles of Confederation for that plan of government is TRUE limited government. The Articles created a national government that derived power from the state legislatures. The Constitution, on the other hand, created a national government that derived power from itself.

The Constitution is also a framework for limited government -- just read Article 1, Section 8 (then asking yourself "how many federal laws fit in these?") if you don't believe me.

Blogger Were-Puppy March 22, 2017 9:59 PM  

@26 Orville
The wife and I finally got around to watching "Snowden" last night.
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I watched it with a couple family members and it visually showed them what I've been trying to explain to them for a long time.

Blogger Were-Puppy March 22, 2017 10:01 PM  

@28 Satan's Hamster
Did you see the recent news reports about people who were unable to even turn off their stove when Amazon's 'The Cloud' went down for a few hours?
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If you think that's something, check this out :
http://www.livescience.com/58332-jeff-bezos-controls-giant-mech-robot.html

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