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Tuesday, December 05, 2017

A coverup at the opera

It appears that (((James Levine)))'s co-ethnics have been protecting the Metropolitan Opera's abusive homosexual conductor and paying off his victims for decades.
As the Metropolitan Opera reeled from the suspension of its longtime conductor James Levine over sexual misconduct accusations, a fourth man came forward Monday saying that Mr. Levine had sexually abused him decades ago, when the man was a student.

Met officials scrambled to deal with the cascade of accusations, emailing donors to assure them that the Met will be taking “all appropriate actions” — even as the opera house came under sharp criticism for not investigating Mr. Levine after learning in 2016 of a police inquiry into a report of sexual abuse against him.

The Ravinia Festival also announced Monday night that it had “severed all ties” with Mr. Levine, its former music director, who had planned to begin a five-year term as conductor laureate in the summer of 2018. “We are deeply troubled and saddened by the allegations and sympathize with everyone who has been hurt,” the festival said in a statement.

The man who made the new accusations Monday, Albin Ifsich, said he had been abused by Mr. Levine beginning in 1968, when Mr. Ifsich was 20 and attending the Meadow Brook School of Music, a summer program in Michigan where Mr. Levine was a rising star on the faculty. He said that the abuse continued for several years after he joined a tight-knit clique of young musicians who followed Mr. Levine in Cleveland and later New York....

In the email to Met donors, Ann Ziff, the chairwoman of the Met’s board of directors, and Judith-Ann Corrente, its president and chief executive officer, wrote that they had been “deeply disturbed” by the reports about Mr. Levine. A recipient of the email shared it with The Times on Monday night.

“Together with general manager Peter Gelb, we are committed to a complete investigation of the allegations against Mr. Levine, and we would like to assure you and all of the Met’s loyal donors that the company will be taking all appropriate actions,” the two Met officials wrote in the email. “We also want to assure you that we will never lose focus on our artistic mission to continue to deliver performances of the highest artistic level to our audience.”

Some opera lovers and others took to social media to question whether the Met knew about troubling behavior by Mr. Levine and why Mr. Gelb and other leaders did not investigate him before now, given disturbing rumors about his private life that had long circulated in music circles.

Mr. Gelb, in an interview, dismissed rumors circulating online that the Met had reached settlements in the past with the families of abuse victims as untrue.

“Since I’ve been at the Met there has not been a single instance of somebody coming forward to make a complaint, ever, about Levine in recent Met history,” Mr. Gelb said. “And if you talk to the previous general managers about their watches, they say the same.”

“There have been no complaints and no settlements, and this has been verified by the Met’s finance office, our development office,” he said.
Perhaps Mr. Gelb is telling the truth. Or perhaps he is playing semantic games with the word "recent". Certainly there is contradictory information being spread around Twitter and elsewhere. From the timeline of David Hines‏ @hradzka:
For those who missed it, James Levine -- music prodigy, acclaimed conductor, music director 1976–2016; artistic director 1986–2004; music director emeritus 2016–present -- had a scandal break involving abuse of a 15yo boy. Except if you had any serious New York classical music scene people on your TL, you saw them *freaking the hell out* because they knew how huge the story was. There were lots and lots and lots and lots of rumors about Levine and boys, but nobody knew anything actionable because nobody knew any victims.

One of the top music execs in the country told me 20 years ago when I asked “it’s all true, there have been millions paid in settlements.” I believed him. Levine has led an extremely sordid life that would have landed anyone else in prison long ago. Because the people who did know were either paid off, or doing the paying off.

One of the great conductors in the world and yet, at some point, he stopped conducting in Europe. Didn’t anyone wonder why? That’s a rare thing. I always assumed it was his health, but a friend with close ties to the industry said earlier tonight on Facebook that he'd heard Levine had actually been banned from visiting England.

That is absolutely true. And it’s not the only place. The shit he did in Munich when he was there. Ernst Rohm level stuff. Basically, there's no way anybody in a position of power at the Met during his tenure didn't know, and if the payouts were at "millions of dollars" *twenty years ago...*
So, which is more probable, the decades of rumors are completely false and have no basis in fact or this is yet another example of one (((gentleman))) in a position of power covering for another (((one)))? Ask yourself this question: if the Metropolitan Opera is telling the truth, how is it possible that so many accusers from so long ago have come forward so quickly, and Levine has only been suspended? It appears his (((defenders))) are still trying to protect him, even as they claim that he's already stepped down, he's old news, and actually, they aren't entirely sure to whom you might even be referring.

The cracks in the Pizzagate wall continue to grow. Note that director (((Bryan Singer))) went inexplicably AWOL from his current film project before being fired from it yesterday. The filthy creatures know their lies and their behavior is going to be exposed sooner or later and they are beginning to panic. Given the way in which past hints have turned out to be correct, it appears everyone from Steven Spielberg and George Lucas to Jared Leto, James Franco, and Don Henley will be going down, and that's just the world of entertainment.

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Blogger Nate December 05, 2017 8:06 AM  

'So, which is more probable, the decades of rumors are completely false and have no basis in fact or this is yet another example of one (((gentleman))) in a position of power covering for another (((one)))? '

this is something an auditor could find out pretty easily. If millions have been paid out... well... its there for them to find... and they would find it.

If the payouts are really not there... that doesn't disprove the claim... but it does weaken it considerably.

Blogger VD December 05, 2017 8:12 AM  

this is something an auditor could find out pretty easily. If millions have been paid out... well... its there for them to find... and they would find it.

Depends who paid it and to whom. I doubt the Met paid it directly. But one of its donors, well, that allows for plausible deniability. Just a music-loving philanthropist supporting a very promising young musician, right?

Anonymous Moshe (London) December 05, 2017 8:14 AM  

I am one of (((them)))

I have been following Vox for about 6 months and agree with almost every post

I am not afraid of the truth however damning it is of me and my people

This all has to stop

I am so ashamed

Of this and of so much else

And not just because of things coming out into the light (I welcome that)

But because it is all still going on in so many other ways

There is a big problem with (((us)))

You and all your allies are doing nothing wrong - and a lot right - by honestly pointing it out

(Not that you need my permission in any way)

I personally need to do something about this. It is burning like a fire in my heart

Blogger SteelPalm December 05, 2017 8:14 AM  

A somewhat different angle on the same subject from a couple of days ago;

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/268593/anti-semitic-pro-terror-opera-conductor-hit-sex-daniel-greenfield

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 05, 2017 8:15 AM  

So Levine was not Saint Gay?

The "Jewish Century" has the HIV, prognosis not good at all.

Blogger MendoScot December 05, 2017 8:15 AM  

Hey, it's just an opera thang.

The lawyer for a Sydney opera singer facing allegations of historical child sex abuse involving a 14-year-old girl says negotiations are under way with the director of public prosecutions.

But his lawyer, Chadi Irani, told Magistrate Greg Grogin negotiations with the DPP over the alleged offences were under way.


I wonder if Chadi Irani is going to announce David Lewis' coversion to the Religion of Pedophilia anytime soon.

Blogger xavier December 05, 2017 8:16 AM  

James Franco? Forgive my ignorance but i never heard of any scandal about him. Notvthat i ever followed his career so i'm totally unfamiliar with the accusations.

Blogger VD December 05, 2017 8:17 AM  

I am not afraid of the truth however damning it is of me and my people

Good for you. You are not responsible for the actions of others of your kind. So don't become responsible for those actions by defending them and helping them cover for their evil. The choice is simple: police your own or be policed by those who care a lot less about your collective well-being.

Meanwhile, we'll be more than happy to burn our own offenders at the stake.

Blogger ZhukovG December 05, 2017 8:17 AM  

@Nate: I suspect 'millions' may be hyperbole. However, the payments would be easier to hide if a 'friend' of the Met made the payments on their behalf.

Anonymous Looking Glass December 05, 2017 8:19 AM  

The rumor that he's banned from chunks of Europe could be fascinating to track down. Is it among the performance scene or the governments actually tell him to take a hike?

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd December 05, 2017 8:31 AM  

Moshe (London) wrote:I am one of (((them)))
...
I am so ashamed
...
There is a big problem with (((us)))
...
I personally need to do something about this. It is burning like a fire in my heart


You sound like a decent man. God bless you. Next year in Jerusalem, OK? Every country needs decent men, and Israel is no exception.

Anonymous Moshe (London) December 05, 2017 8:37 AM  

VD: You are not responsible for the actions of others of your kind


I appreciate your reply (and all your work, more than I can say)

But although I'm not directly responsible for these particular aspects (Sexually abusing in personal life, and promoting wickedness throughout Western Culture), I have not lived a life free of other parts of (((our))) behaviour. (I think I'll continue this point as a separate post, later)


Also, When I was younger, (I'm 43) I was happy to bask in the (selectively-edited) reflected "glory" of "disproportionate Nobel Prize Winners", "Judeo-Christian ethos created the West", "High-achieving" and all the rest of it. I didn't go round telling everyone about it, but it was part of my thinking.

So I can't suddenly pull the "Nothing to do with me, Guv" lever, when the ugly underside is now being revealed for all to see.

(((They))) are my brothers - lechery, arrogance, ingratitude and all - and I have to humbly own a share in that shame.

The point I started to make, I'll do in a separate post








Blogger Johnny December 05, 2017 8:38 AM  

At this point not so much defending him as making the best of a bad situation. More to the point, what the hell is wrong with these people? Surely talent can be developed without the toleration of this sort of thing.

Anonymous Jeff December 05, 2017 8:41 AM  

(((Phantom))) of the Opera

Blogger Miguel December 05, 2017 8:42 AM  

No wonder there was so a rush to normalize pedophilia/efebophilia.

Blogger F.D. Stephens December 05, 2017 8:47 AM  

Cue fashion (designers, photographers, agents), publishing and academia. I have a feeling the reckoning hasn't even begun.

Anonymous Jeff December 05, 2017 8:48 AM  

(((They))) were born that way.

Anonymous E Deploribus Unum December 05, 2017 9:00 AM  

Don Henley?

Blogger Dire Badger December 05, 2017 9:00 AM  

Moshe (London) wrote:I am one of (((them)))

I personally need to do something about this. It is burning like a fire in my heart


The only thing that even the most hard-line anti jew has ever wanted is for jews to police their own, and treat with us with the same honor and trust we have treated with them.

The lack of such reciprocity, however, is the source of the conflict. despite millions of opportunities, They continue to turn our culture into a low-trust society.

Many of us believe by this point, that we are asking too much of them. That such cultural understanding is impossible... which leaves the other options.

No one wants your 'guilt'. Guilt is useless. We simply want you to behave in a trustworthy manner.

I had dinner with some of my brother's friends the other night, and they were laughing and bragging about how one of them got a guy thrown in jail because he lost his auto shop after the divorce and couldn't pay his child support.

I was ready to jump across the table and strangle the bastard. Sure what they did was 'legal', but ethics and laws are two entirely separate and unconnected things. It's examples like these, of reveling in their lack of any sort of ethics, that make people hate them.

Anonymous WinstonWebb December 05, 2017 9:00 AM  

Let's throw another log on the fire!

Anonymous Big Bill December 05, 2017 9:07 AM  

Careful, Moshe. You know the penalties for mosrim.

Anonymous Icicle December 05, 2017 9:10 AM  

Also, When I was younger, (I'm 43) I was happy to bask in the (selectively-edited) reflected "glory" of "disproportionate Nobel Prize Winners", "Judeo-Christian ethos created the West", "High-achieving" and all the rest of it. I didn't go round telling everyone about it, but it was part of my thinking.

That's linked to this. Power corrupts.

Blogger VD December 05, 2017 9:20 AM  

The principle of mesirah is one of the primary reasons they have to go back. No one honoring such a principle is truly capable of living in a civilized Western society or any society that respects the rule of law.

Blogger Koanic December 05, 2017 9:24 AM  

The circumcision certainly lacks circumspection when it comes to screwing their chosen victims.

Anonymous Icicle December 05, 2017 9:26 AM  

I can't wait for the Orthodox Jew sex scandals to go stratospheric.

Blogger Gordon December 05, 2017 9:35 AM  

The Fag Dom of the Opera is here, inside your mind....

Expecting a tribe to throw off the social stuctures that have enabled its survival for thousands of years is, well, expecting a whole lot. We can say that Western civilization did, via the enlightenment, but if you ask folks who lived in Minnesota in 1958, it looked pretty tribal. A Lutheran marrying a Methodist was a mixed marriage. Every county had a Catholic town and a Lutheran town. They Glorified Mary, We Glorified Rice is a humorous take on it, but it got intense at times.

The new Minnesota tribalism is imported whole from the most tribal place on the planet: Somalia. Tribe, clan, sub-clan, family branch: there are feuds that go back 100 years, and started with a stolen goat. Moving the battle from some wadi to here didn't make it go away.

If there were a mystery author with courage, he or she might write a whole series of books based on some iconoclastic, but brilliant detective who navigates the twisted corridors of the Ralph Rapson highrises to hunt down Somali serial killers.

Anonymous Legit Conservative War Fighter December 05, 2017 9:36 AM  

"(((James Levine)))'s co-ethnics"

Why do you have to be anti-semitic?

Not only is anti-semitism illegal in many countries (rightly so) but it is also literally Satanic.

"Jew-hating, Black-hating white supremacists are the Haman in this story (Esther 3:6). Their glory will be short (Esther 7:10)."

https://twitter.com/johnpiper/status/900358299131887616

Blogger Koanic December 05, 2017 9:40 AM  

Yet another thing Hitler got wrong: the Berlin Philharmonic.

> The shit he did in Munich when he was there.

When in Rohm

On behalf of the boxcars, we thank this misconductor!

Anonymous Looking Glass December 05, 2017 9:43 AM  

@23 VD

Rabbinic Judaism is brilliant constructed to allow sociopaths to rise to the top of the culture and make otherwise decent people defend the sociopaths with great vigor. Then the sociopaths run away before they piss off the locals enough to drive them out, leaving the "normals" to get destroyed in the path.

You can even see this effect among the Jews within the Media Class. They're always trying to avoid getting eaten by their own. That's why they play suck-up so hard. They instinctively know they're fodder for when the Elites run away.

Blogger Koanic December 05, 2017 9:43 AM  

> "Jew-hating, Black-hating white supremacists are the Haman in this story (Esther 3:6). Their glory will be short (Esther 7:10)."

Hey you got that backward. Christian-hating Communist Jews are the Haman in this story. Their glory will be short. Their Holocaust will be a holiday.

Blogger The Kurgan December 05, 2017 9:45 AM  

I knew that slowly, slowly you'd start to warm to the Catholic ways of doing things. From 1095 or so of course.

Blogger VD December 05, 2017 9:50 AM  

Why do you have to be anti-semitic?

For the same reason you have to be pro-pedophile.

Blogger VD December 05, 2017 9:52 AM  

Not only is anti-semitism illegal in many countries (rightly so) but it is also literally Satanic.

You have it backwards. Also, you should note that most American Jews are ethnically less than half Jewish. Many are less genetically Jewish than I am American Indian.

Blogger James Dixon December 05, 2017 9:52 AM  

> Don Henley?

Just one known example, from http://www.houstonpress.com/music/teen-angels-10-musicians-with-a-penchant-for-young-girls-6502186

"Back in 1980, Eagles drummer/singer Don Henley was arrested when police found a drugged, naked 16-year-old girl at his house in Hollywood. Henley got a $2,000 fine and two years probation (seriously?) for the offense."

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( Real Men correct Nate ... 's ... speeling ◕‿◕ ... ◔ ⌣ ◔ ... ◕‿↼ Passive Aggressively ) December 05, 2017 9:55 AM  

hunh. i had no idea about Henley.

Henley called paramedics to his home on November 21, 1980, where a 16-year-old girl was found naked and claiming she had overdosed on quaaludes and cocaine. She was arrested for prostitution, while a 15-year-old girl found in the house was arrested for being under the influence of drugs. He was subsequently charged for contributing to the delinquency of a minor, fined and put on probation.[75][76][77] Henley was arrested and pleaded no contest. He was fined $2,500 and put on two years' probation.[78] Chiles, who was no longer in a relationship with Henley at the time of the incident, later said, "I was shocked to hear about it. He didn't have drugs around the house. It was an accident, I'm sure."


notice that the ex-girlfriend is shocked about the drugs ... but NOT ABOUT THE TEENY-BOPPER GIRL PROSTITUTES.

that right there raises an eyebrow.

amusing that Henley has primary credit on "King of Hollywood" if that's what he was doing himself.


23. VD December 05, 2017 9:20 AM
No one honoring such a principle is truly capable of living in a civilized Western society or any society that respects the rule of law.


taqiyyah for the Infidel, who could have a problem with that?



13. Johnny December 05, 2017 8:38 AM
Surely talent can be developed without the toleration of this sort of thing.


you have it backwards. of COURSE talent could be developed without this "sort of thing".

but that obviates the whole need AND PURPOSE for creating the development channel in the first place:

creating a ready supply of eager, ignorant young supplicants who can be easily manipulated.

it's kind of like public education, if you think about it.

Blogger VD December 05, 2017 9:55 AM  

I can't wait for the Orthodox Jew sex scandals to go stratospheric.

From what I've heard from Israelis, the Orthodox Jews are to the non-Orthodox what the non-Orthodox Jews are to white Americans in terms of the incidence of sex crimes and child abuse.

Blogger Silly but True December 05, 2017 9:56 AM  

Levine? Gelb? Ziff?

We can only observe - yet again - there seems to be a lot of these kinds of people around.

And for those who might claim anti-semetism, to be clear by "people," it is meant pedophiles and their enablers.

It would sure be nice if some type of coincidence detector could be developed by Google Chrome to identify these people for whom their past conduct now echoes through history.

Blogger tz December 05, 2017 10:08 AM  

It will be as bad in all these other areas as the Catholic Priest scandal. Judgment begins with the house of God. It doesn't end there. Also, it was ordinary dioscesan low level priests, not famous or wealthy or powerful Bishops and Cardinals. But those who are being exposed now in the rest of society are the powerful. Epstine's Lolita express passenger list was covered up, but we know the Clintons were on it. Comet #Pizzagate may yet ping-pong (it is being used against Chernovich as #FakeNews but I think he will be vindicated, and aren't allegations proof like in Moore?).. We haven't seen the Weiner emails but police agencies have.

Anonymous Moshe (London) December 05, 2017 10:08 AM  

I have some work to do first so I'll finish that main point I said later today.


(I wish I could type, or put my ideas into writing quickly! I admire so much those who are able to effectively communicate in writing)



Ominous Cowherd:
You're right. I would like to.


Dire Badger:
I agree with you completely. That is actually to do with that main point which I need to find a way to put into words, how not acting with moral decency, honesty and gratitude to a country and a people (in my case, England and the English people) that has treated myself, my parents, my grandparents and (((our people))) so generously and so decently, is so wrong at such a basic level.

And I didn't meant to express guilt for guilt's sake (point taken and accepted). I intended to express facing up personal and group wrong-doing as a first step to real change.



Big Bill: Not worried. Either way, it wouldn't stop me.



The only things stopping me is inertia and the fact that all I have at this point is an utter conviction and a burning passion. G-d hasn't yet put into my heart / mind concrete steps to take societally.

Personally I worked to make Brexit happen (I wasn't so woke back then, but enough to know that!) and I've taken some further private steps to being someone I can respect when I look in the mirror.


But to actually make a difference to my group? I don't yet have clarity how.

Anonymous SAK December 05, 2017 10:14 AM  

Crikey:

According to The Times of Israel and a Channel 4 investigation, the concept of mesirah was used by a Haredi leader to protect community members investigated for child molestation from police investigation.

The more you know.

Anonymous Open your eyes December 05, 2017 10:17 AM  

It's increasingly clear that it's very typical for Jews to actively suppress information about criminal activity committed by other Jews.

When Larry David dared to notice that many of the sexual predators in the news are Jewish, Jews screamed that he should shut up. And even Larry himself "wished the Jewish sexual predators weren't in the news," but didn't spare a thought for any of the Shiksa victims of sexual assault.

At the very top of the media power pyramid, we see all kinds of horrible enabling behavior. Jeff Zucker and Andy Lack both knew that Matt Lauer was assaulting female employees, but they let it continue to happen.

Now, this may not have been because Lauer is half-Jewish and most of his victims were goyim. This may have been typical misguided institutional self-preservation: "hush it up...NBC News can't afford a scandal...Lauer gets good ratings, etc." But the fact remains that the Jewish bosses protected a Jewish criminal and ignored his female gentile victims. They didn't just hush it up the first time. They let it happen again and again. For decades.

Even far away from the halls of power, perfectly good, nice, Jewish friends of mine DO sometimes express this opinion: "Because of the holocaust, it is dangerous when criminal behavior by Jews is publicized, because all Jews might be blamed for the bad apples." Whether or not this neurotic paranoia is justified, the fact remains that they have at least some instinct toward covering up rather than rooting out crime in cases where the perpetrator is Jewish. This is very troubling.

So, those are two causes--powerful Jews "protecting" institutions, and regular Jews kind of wishing for no bad publicity for any Jews. But the third potential cause is the most troubling of all. Maybe Jews really do see Gentiles as subhuman. As enemy. As animal. Why would they mind if one of their chosen brethren "uses" an animal for sexual gratification?

We're dealing here with many, many media organizations in which Jewish executives enabled and hid and protected the sexual assault of gentiles by Jews.

Whatever the combination of causes, the outcomes are the same. This is a very serious wake up call for gentiles.

After all this, would you as a gentile father want your daughter working for a Jewish-run news organization or movie studio or investment bank? If she got sexually assaulted by a Jewish executive, would the organization take her side?

Gentiles may see no distinction between white Jews and white Gentiles, but apparently Jews DO see the distinction. And it's such a huge distinction to them that Jewish-run media organizations have very often protected Jewish rapists instead of Gentile rape victims.

Anonymous Jonathan December 05, 2017 10:17 AM  

I've heard the Don Henley rumors and they're believable when you see interviews with him. He's an arrogant jerk who seems to believe that his talent gives him a pass.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( Real Men correct Nate ... 's ... speeling ◕‿◕ ... ◔ ⌣ ◔ ... ◕‿↼ Passive Aggressively ) December 05, 2017 10:19 AM  

3. Moshe (London) December 05, 2017 8:14 AM
I have been following Vox for about 6 months


so you've already seen me blathering about the 'Spirit of Jonah'?

Blogger WynnLloyd December 05, 2017 10:22 AM  

You're clearly an honorable man, and while you might see yourself as linked to those who are dysfunctional, surely other people will see the difference between you and them. .

Blogger SciVo December 05, 2017 10:24 AM  

Johnny wrote:More to the point, what the hell is wrong with these people? Surely talent can be developed without the toleration of this sort of thing.

Of course no talent is so irreplaceable. But it doesn't really matter if they're mediocre or even (gasp!) inferior, if they're on the inside, with ties that bind.

It's tribal turtles all the way down.

Anonymous Lord of the Fleas December 05, 2017 10:28 AM  

He said that the abuse continued for several years after he joined a tight-knit clique of young musicians who followed Mr. Levine in Cleveland and later New York....

Doesn't do much for the sympathy factor, given that there are other orchestras that could have used his talents.

Anonymous fop December 05, 2017 10:30 AM  

Don Henley must die.

Anonymous Moshe (London) December 05, 2017 10:30 AM  

Open your eyes:

Jewish friends of mine DO sometimes express this opinion: "Because of the holocaust, it is dangerous when criminal behavior by Jews is publicized, because all Jews might be blamed for the bad apples."



Or as a (((friend))) put it to me a couple of weeks ago, when I unloaded on him (at maybe 50% capacity of how far I could have gone) - "Your views are dangerous" (in effect admitting that they were true, as if he could've refuted them, he would've done so)



So out of 2 possible precautionary responses to a possible Holocaust:


1. Continue to hush up any scandalous behaviour (do nothing to really stop the behaviour generally) and try to weaponise PC to shame the "goyim" into silence


2. Admit and accept responsibility for scandalous behaviour - openly admit that it is in many ways even worse than is publicly reported (yes, even now!) - and commit to verifiable real and lasting actual change (and actually implement that change as #1 priority)?


Why can other clever "Nobel-Prize winning" brains not see that #2 is clearly the moral, decent, intelligent and effective choice?

Anonymous Open your eyes December 05, 2017 10:34 AM  

Very well said by Vox:

"You are not responsible for the actions of others of your kind. So don't become responsible for those actions by defending them and helping them cover for their evil. The choice is simple: police your own or be policed by those who care a lot less about your collective well-being."

And what paranoid Jews sometimes fail to grasp is that their cover-ups create their problems. By leaving host cultures with no choice. We'd be happy enough to treat everyone like a citizen and separate the bad apples from the good. But when good Jewish apples actively COVER for bad ones, the only logical remedy left becomes group-based punishment or expulsion.

The European governments who may have banned Levine from performing in their countries because sex crimes are also culpable. If someone is caught molesting children in your country, you're supposed to bust him, not just quietly ban him.

I suspect that Jewish power or fear thereof may have influenced the rape-enabling decision-making of these European governments. "You have a lot of important (((friends))) here. So we'll stay mum on the raping as long as you don't do it here. Deal?"

Anonymous Moshe (London) December 05, 2017 10:35 AM  

((( bob kek mando )))

so you've already seen me blathering about the 'Spirit of Jonah'?



I have seen your comments - your username is more memorable than most!

(Is it my memory or does it slightly change from time to time?)

But I'm not sure what you mean about the Spirit of Jonah - please explain?

Anonymous BBGKB December 05, 2017 10:38 AM  

Perhaps Mr. Gelb is telling the truth. Or perhaps he is playing semantic games with the word "recent

He looks like a kiddy fiddler.

I am not afraid of the truth however damning it is of me and my people

You wont be invited to any more parties if they suspect you are a snitch.

Anonymous a deplorable rubberducky December 05, 2017 10:41 AM  

Ernst Rohm level stuff? How ironic is that. And sickening! This scandal may completely destroy the Metropolitan Opera. It will emerge that they have known and covered for Levine for a very long time. The guy's notorious in circles. They are very hard pressed to keep these particular plates spinning now.

Anonymous BBGKB December 05, 2017 10:47 AM  

More to the point, what the hell is wrong with these people? Surely talent can be developed without the toleration of this sort of thing.

Perhaps you missed VD's article about the 26 out of the 25 jewish scientists(one was an engineer fresh out of school) credited with the work of over 6000 scientists during the Manhattan project.

Anonymous Magna Carta December 05, 2017 10:47 AM  

Check out this 1991 Johnny Carson clip with Jack Palance where he talks about actor Elisha Cook after drinking at a bar in 1951.
https://youtu.be/YUdCHx-Zih8?t=2m37s

Jack, "I'll, take you to your place."
Elisha, "No."
Jack, "Why not?"
Elisha, "I heard about you Hollywood guys."

Blogger James December 05, 2017 10:52 AM  

I have been thinking about the coming sexbot revolution. It will come, no doubt. However, it will raise the ire of SJW's everywhere. Don't get me wrong: It is highly unnatural, but that has never stopped anybody. The gray areas will be issues like when does AI become "life" and busybodies wanting to extend human rights to non-humans. I mean, the Saudis have already given citizenship to a robot/android (WTF? Muslims doing this?), so just think about how much more insane the West will react to realistic androids. And not to mention, the eventual pedophile market. "Hey, Roman. Got the new 2025 10-year old models on the lot. Come on down for a test ride!" Anyway, if this were a book, how can this story be written without veering off into the prurient?

Blogger Gordon December 05, 2017 10:54 AM  

I think the story about Henley is true, and there may yet be another chapter to it emerging in the coming months. The thing is, things were different in 1980. There were a whole lot of underage girls in and around rock music and Hollywood in general in the 1970s. In Almost Famous all of the groupies traveling with the band were underage. And, cocaine was not known to be as dangerous/addictive as it is now. It was pretty much considered to be equivalent to pot socially, just more expensive.

Never mind a long-haired rock and roll god: Andy Williams, who was as white bread conservative as one could get short of Lawrence Welk, was well known to have a sugar bowl full of coke at his parties. It was in Newsweek! And no one thought that was too far out of line.

Now there was a big coverup in the Henley case, and however different mores were in 1980, you weren't supposed to have teenaged hookers drugged so much they needed EMTs. But looking back on the excesses of that time with today's morality is about like looking back on the fact that most of our first 15 presidents owned slaves. Things were different then. We know, now, that slavery was evil. But in 1825, it wasn't, to many Americans.

In 1980 it was perfectly acceptable to smoke anywhere, anytime, except in an elevator. A pregnant woman could smoke and have a drink, and if there were any reaction it would be mild.

Anonymous SAK December 05, 2017 11:08 AM  

"Because of the holocaust, it is dangerous when criminal behavior by Jews is publicized, because all Jews might be blamed for the bad apples."

No, the cover up is what will get you all blamed.

Its like the Catholic Church. It was always going to be bad PR when pedophile priests were discovered, but the instituional cover ups by powerful bishops and cardinals were the deeper problem for the Church as a whole.

People know there are pedophiles. They know a large organisation will probably have some. And if said organisation helps in the noble cause of uncovering and then hanging from the neck till dead the wrong doers said oragnisation will be forgiven. Otherwise, they'll get a well deserved kicking as well.

Blogger Desdichado December 05, 2017 11:09 AM  

Even far away from the halls of power, perfectly good, nice, Jewish friends of mine DO sometimes express this opinion: "Because of the holocaust, it is dangerous when criminal behavior by Jews is publicized, because all Jews might be blamed for the bad apples." Whether or not this neurotic paranoia is justified, the fact remains that they have at least some instinct toward covering up rather than rooting out crime in cases where the perpetrator is Jewish. This is very troubling.

Which is, of course, supremely ironic, because that's how you get Holocausts.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( Real Men correct Nate ... 's ... speeling ◕‿◕ ... ◔ ⌣ ◔ ... ◕‿↼ Passive Aggressively ) December 05, 2017 11:10 AM  

50. Moshe (London) December 05, 2017 10:35 AM
But I'm not sure what you mean about the Spirit of Jonah - please explain?


read the last chapter of Jonah. <<< and i do mean this literally, please read the last chapter of Jonah before continuing.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jonah+4&version=KJV

pay especial attention to the *reason* he gives for refusing to prophecy to Nineveh.

pay especial attention to the lengths that Jonah says that he would go in order to merely avoid the slim possibility of that eventuality.

remember that Nineveh is a city state of ... Goyim.

think the implications through.

scholarly conjecture is that Jonah was 'written' by 400 BC, but it concerns an historical period from nearly 800 BC. well before Jesus Christ caused such a ruckus.

and what was Jonah being instructed to do? and WHO was Jonah being instructed to minister too?

therefore, Jews have known for nearly 3,000 years that their God was demanding that they prophecy his word to the Goyim, that they proselytize the Goyim.

and, like Jonah, they have refused the command of their God. preferring death to obedience.

because they know that theirs is a Just and Merciful God. and if the Goyim repent, why, God might *not* punish the Goyim.

better that 6 million die than risk that God should forgive the sins of the Goyim.


50. Moshe (London) December 05, 2017 10:35 AM
(Is it my memory or does it slightly change from time to time?)


slightly?

Blogger Desdichado December 05, 2017 11:12 AM  

Things were different then. We know, now, that slavery was evil. But in 1825, it wasn't, to many Americans.

Dude; I was around in 1980. It wasn't that different. And no, we all knew coke was an order of magnitude harder drug than marijuana.

Also; I'm not going to try to defend slavery, but can you actually demonstrate that it's bad? I highly doubt that you can, yet you throw in the "as we all know" BS. Bad for whom, and how can you prove that that's actually true?

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents December 05, 2017 11:18 AM  

The rhetorical question to ask:

If Hillary Rodan Robot Clinton was President would any of this have come out? Not Weinstein for sure, but any of it at all?

Blogger Gordon December 05, 2017 11:24 AM  

Desdichao, it was different. There exists a set of photos of Don Johnson and Melanie Griffith playing around on some rocks, nude. Melanie was quite underage at the time, and those photos were published in Penthouse, I think. No one was arrested or sued, and clearly Melanie's mom was aware.

As for coke, we disagree. The drug education stuff I got in school in the early 70s said it was addictive, but nothing like heroin. It was socially acceptable to do coke in public (in Hollywood). The reason some people didn't, while they might smoke pot openly, was because if people saw you with it they'd bug you for some.

Blogger Resident Moron™ December 05, 2017 11:28 AM  

There’s no such thing as hard or soft drugs; only effective and ineffective drugs.

Blogger Desdichado December 05, 2017 11:29 AM  

Ah. So it was "different" because you were in Hollywood.

Blogger Resident Moron™ December 05, 2017 11:30 AM  

As for the gay old opera ... try searching YouTube for Toyota and bugger.

Anonymous fop December 05, 2017 11:31 AM  

Another scalp for Cerno. Seder is out at MSNBC.

Blogger Arthur Isaac December 05, 2017 11:35 AM  

The abusee followed Levine from Michigan to Cleveland to New York. SJW's are going to outlaw "relationships".

More popcorn.

Blogger MendoScot December 05, 2017 11:43 AM  

Drudge has a whole bunch of new (I think) allegations - Hollywood, Broadway, etc.

This is epic.

Trump keeps winning and they keep destroying themselves.

Coverups everywhere, but they can't stop it.

Blogger James Dixon December 05, 2017 11:44 AM  

> As for coke, we disagree. The drug education stuff I got in school in the early 70s said it was addictive, but nothing like heroin.

It is nothing like heroin, but it's still extremely addictive, and that was known in the 80's.

> It was socially acceptable to do coke in public (in Hollywood).

It's always been socially acceptable to lots of things in Hollywood that it isn't any where else. That fact that Hollywood in the 80's was as full of perverts as it is now isn't news to anyone, and doesn't make your case.

As for Melanie Griffith, if she was past the age of consent and her parents didn't care, there was no reason for either an arrest or a suit. Quite underage covers a lot of ground.

Blogger VD December 05, 2017 11:45 AM  

The thing is, things were different in 1980.

Things were different in 1780 too. That hasn't stopped anyone from blaming the Founding Fathers for their sins. It won't save your aging rock stars and Hollywood celebrities either.

Anonymous Just another commenter December 05, 2017 11:50 AM  

*Scratches head*
Hmmm.... Is that why India has a relatively functional system that doesn't devolve into instant civil war of genocide, in spite of its high diversity? They various castes and sub-groups vigorously police their own and apply "random" mob violence (reprisals) against other groups which do not?

Be too funny if a social scientist could prove that lynchings were civilizing and pro-law-and-order.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd December 05, 2017 12:09 PM  

Moshe (London) wrote:Personally I worked to make Brexit happen (I wasn't so woke back then, but enough to know that!) and I've taken some further private steps to being someone I can respect when I look in the mirror.

Kościuszko and Pulaski were Poles who helped in the American Revolution. They were Polish patriots, here because they were exiled from Poland.

If you are helping the Brits take back their country, that's a good thing. Maybe Britain needs you more than your own country, for now at least.

Anonymous Nimgaladh December 05, 2017 12:17 PM  

on self-policing
I learned in my psychology classes that, like the carrot and the stick, altruism requires enforcement to work over the long term.

"I'll be happy to help you, out of the the goodness of my heart, but if you betray me, there will be hell to pay."

Blogger Gordon December 05, 2017 12:20 PM  

"My" rock stars and celebrities? Hardly. I'm just pointing out that mores and public opinion are not, nor have they ever been, static. Henley's behavior, had it happened in 1960, and become public knowledge, would have ended his career and freedom. And I did point out that many are trying to hold Washington, Jefferson, Madison, Monroe, Jackson, et al to modern standards.

As for being IN Hollywood in 1980...no. I think I drove through LA, or some part of it, in 1979, and passed through LAX in 1980. That was my only time in LA until 2014, when I was in town for three days or so. Hanging out with you know, hardware store owners. Those Tru-Value guys, let me tell you, they can really rock....

Blogger EMyrt December 05, 2017 12:25 PM  

I heard Levine conduct the CSO at Ravinia back in 1972 (Mahler 4th); it was an amazing performance. He was considered the most promising conductor of his generation. Then he went to the Met, and at first we thought, "Great, nothing like an opera gig to turn out another Richard Strauss". Then Levine turned into a stodgy, unimaginative opera conductor, holding down the mid-20thC style in a world of despicable post-modern productions. I always wondered what happened? Perhaps the rot within matters to certain kinds of artistic expression.

Anonymous Gen. Kong December 05, 2017 12:26 PM  

Banned from visiting Cuck Island? Hell I'm surprised the cat ladies running things there didn't invite him to give lectures on the importance of emerging sexuality in kindergartens.

Blogger James December 05, 2017 12:26 PM  

Just another commenter wrote:
Be too funny if a social scientist could prove that lynchings were civilizing and pro-law-and-order.


Since when do social scientists prove anything? And there is at least anecdotal evidence that lynchings were civilizing and law-and-order. Kept the dindus in line, didn't it? Now, lynchings are frowned upon and we have baboons gone wild.

Blogger Gordon December 05, 2017 12:26 PM  

"Quite underage covers a lot of ground."

James, simple possession of that magazine today could be charged as a felony. Things change.

Blogger James Dixon December 05, 2017 12:40 PM  

> James, simple possession of that magazine today could be charged as a felony. Things change.

The age of consent and parental consent haven't changed all that much. Child pornography laws have, yes. Arguably they've gone way too far.

Blogger BlowMe December 05, 2017 12:43 PM  

I've read good things about Levine's Brahms symphony cycle with the Vienna Philharmonic and was considering ordering it and giving it an audition.

Screw that now.

I'll just have to be "satisfied" (heh) with Furtwangler, Klemperer and Skrowaczewski, among others.

Bummer. Heh.

Anonymous Gen. Kong December 05, 2017 12:46 PM  

Rabbinic Judaism is brilliant constructed to allow sociopaths to rise to the top of the culture and make otherwise decent people defend the sociopaths with great vigor. Then the sociopaths run away before they piss off the locals enough to drive them out, leaving the "normals" to get destroyed in the path.

As explained, the concept of mesirah is similar to that of omerta with the mafiosi. To give the often-cited example, (((Soros))) is only rarely even criticized - and then only mildly - by the (((tribe))), even though he was an actual Nazi collaborator. Non-elite members of the tribe who express opposition are tossed beneath various PC buses of color insofar as the bus is deemed by the tribal leaders to be more important - Berhard Goetz vs. Morganthau in NYC being the classic example. Muslims have a similar doctrine whose name escapes me for the moment.

Blogger Arthur Isaac December 05, 2017 12:50 PM  

If we are going to dig up and burn the bones of Washington and Lee I think it's only fair to hit Jim Morrison and MLK on the way by.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( Real Men correct Nate ... 's ... speeling ◕‿◕ ... ◔ ⌣ ◔ ... ◕‿↼ Passive Aggressively ) December 05, 2017 1:00 PM  

At age 14, Griffith began dating Don Johnson, her mother's 22-year-old co-star in The Harrad Experiment.[28] The relationship culminated in a six-month marriage from January to July 1976.[28] She was later romantically linked to actors Jack Nicholson,[29] Warren Beatty,[30] and Ryan O'Neal.[31] In her autobiography, A Paper Life, Tatum O'Neal alleged that Griffith dragged her into an orgy with Maria Schneider and a male hairdresser during the time of her father's relationship with Griffith.

so, at 14 Melanie started dating 22 year old Don Johnson, married him when she turned 18 and then organized an orgy between herself, two other girls AND A HAIRDRESSER.

so much for Hollywood women behaving this way in order to curry favor with powerful misogynistic men.

also, if Tatum's ( born 1963 ) encounter took place around 72 ( when Schneider first came to Hollywood ), that means that Melanie was molesting a ~10 year old girl. Melanie and Maria would have been ~20 at that time.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella December 05, 2017 1:16 PM  

being a good and decent person inspires others, even ones you do not know about.
if you are having a hard time with it, maybe just a 12 step program, without attending one? It has a checklist that transforms people's lives, without messing up their underlying religious inclinations.

You might want to start with yourself- small, like a mustard seed- practice goodness, decency, truth and wisdom, and then scale up?

I mean, personally, I'm always impressed by people who see the light, and want to jump into the pulpit immediately, rather than sit in a pew, or volunteer at children's service, or sing in the choir, or serve at a soup kitchen, or give a bottle of water to a homeless person. Goodness goes with wisdom, and both take practice.

Anonymous Gen. Kong December 05, 2017 1:17 PM  

It's increasingly clear that it's very typical for Jews to actively suppress information about criminal activity committed by other Jews.

Why do you think the ADL was founded? The (((tribe))) was outraged that all of their bribery efforts failed in 1915 and pedo-rapist-murderer Leo Frank received just punishment at the hands of the outraged public - following a series of actions which prove how completely corrupted the courts and state government of Georgia were - even back in 1914. Frank's collaborators even tried pinning the murder on an innocent dindu janitor. The ADL's purpose - besides genociding white christians off the face of the earth - is to ensure no (((tribesman))) even receives punishment at the hands of the cattle and sheep.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents December 05, 2017 1:19 PM  

So far the stories about Levine are not at the Sandusky level, but that could change if more of his former "mentorees" get up the nerve to talk. Then we'll be into the "what did you know and when did you know it and why did you help hide it?" territory. Some big Met Opera donors may be getting uncomfortable about now.

Anonymous A Deplorable Paradigm Is More Than Twenty Cents December 05, 2017 1:23 PM  

@67 Arthur Isaac
The abusee followed Levine from Michigan to Cleveland to New York.

That's not unusual. It is understandable, in a pathological way.

SJW's are going to outlaw "relationships".

Atomizing society is one of their goals. That's already biting them and is gonna bite harder. Teh lulz!

Blogger Arthur Isaac December 05, 2017 1:35 PM  

@87 A Dep

Atomizing society is one of their goals. That's already biting them and is gonna bite harder.

I noted years ago after watching a (((fellow passenger))) at a airline ticket counter that the people who need civilization the most are the one doing their damnedest to bring the one the are dependent on down. (He was a 5'2", no chin "man" that had a propensity to loud pushiness and line cutting).

Blogger Cecil Henry December 05, 2017 1:38 PM  

@58:

Its not about the Holocaust at all. That's purely a rationalization-- because they had the same behavior before that.

Its in the Talmud and standard Jewish behavior.

Weimerica is very real and very destructive

Anonymous GregMan December 05, 2017 1:40 PM  

"Muslims have a similar doctrine whose name escapes me for the moment."

Are you thinking of Taqqiya, which permits muslims to lie to any non-muslim?

Blogger James Dixon December 05, 2017 1:44 PM  

> ...also, if Tatum's ( born 1963 ) encounter took place around 72 ( when Schneider first came to Hollywood ), that means that Melanie was molesting a ~10 year old girl. Melanie and Maria would have been ~20 at that time.

Now that would be rape. I don't know of any place in the US where the age of consent goes down to 10.

Anonymous Gen. Kong December 05, 2017 1:57 PM  

@90. It's one of the ancillary doctrines of taqqiya.

Back to the main topic at hand, one of the very interesting things about all this 'controlled burning' (getting increasingly out of control it would appear) is that while those named have taken career damage, nobody has been arrested or charged. Also, to take the opening event - (((Harvey the Hutt))) - the Weinstein financial empire remains largely unscathed. In fact, old Harv's 'penance' for this potted-plant abuse seems to consist of doubling down by joining hands with (((Michael Bloomberg))) to destroy the 2nd amendment. Still the fact that this stuff is all coming from places like the Carlos Slim Blog, who has no moral problems in continuing to cover for the crimes of Walter Duranty even now and obviously sat on numerous stories for decades, is an interesting aspect all on its own.

Anonymous Ominous Cowherd December 05, 2017 2:40 PM  

Gen. Kong wrote:Back to the main topic at hand, one of the very interesting things about all this 'controlled burning' (getting increasingly out of control it would appear) is that while those named have taken career damage, nobody has been arrested or charged.

Statute of limitations, and despicable isn't always criminal.

Actual crimes from decades ago are generally not going to be prosecutable, and saying ``watch me beat off into this fern'' isn't criminal.

All of this goes well with the controlled burn theory. Throw some of your own under the bus, for things that aren't actually actionable.

Blogger LP9 December 05, 2017 2:59 PM  

(It is wonderful to read info galactic news that actually features hard news or the important current events versus nonsense. I wish nothing but fire and chaos on the evil.)

With whom's cashola? The public or taxpayer or the jerks own money did he pay and if it was money I wonder what else in gifts, goodies, introductions, connections or networking to smooth over the alleged abuse, depravity, perversity, whatever to silence alleged victims.

Something yugge must be going down for the mueller, blaming muh russia, media, hollywood, arts, music etc., all burning down, ah! the back lash or pendulum swing will be The Honorable artists to rise or so I hope but I dont - I like the burning purifying flames and chaos. The honorable are SIG, solidified in Gold just like my label.

Outside of some modern music or some foreign bands, I like is classical/non vocal and I never liked Levine at all, his style was not graceful, he hates handels messiah so much he'd ruin it for spite.

Why now are all these hyper sensitive women and homos out about harassment, rape, touching blah blah? Interesting Timing.

75, yes they love ugliness and veil in music but their vibrations give the 'sick' away every single time.

Blogger LP9 December 05, 2017 3:01 PM  

93 and my dear Gen Kong, it seems like a plea for ratings when local and national tv is being turned off/cord cut.

Anonymous Takin' A Look December 05, 2017 3:19 PM  

Moshe

That's nice, but it is too little, too late. Because for every honorable Jew like you, there are 100 like this forked-tongued bitch. And a thousand more covering up for them and viciously attacking any legitimate criticism.

https://youtu.be/w9zVVXONnuI

Anonymous bbgkb December 05, 2017 3:43 PM  

(He was a 5'2", no chin "man" that had a propensity to loud pushiness and line cutting).

I have discovered how much fun it can be to ask

"Excuse me sir, are you jewish?" "it's a yes or no question"

Blogger Arthur Isaac December 05, 2017 3:58 PM  

"Excuse me sir, are you jewish?" "it's a yes or no question"

I have no fetish for nasally spoken "YAYS's". Although it might be fun to interrupt a tirade for the lulz.

Blogger CJ December 05, 2017 5:54 PM  

Levine isn't a party politician nor AFAIK any kind of an activist. The current wave of accusations/outings/exposures may have been stimulated for political ends, but this looks like collateral damage. BTW, one reason Levine lasted so long at the Metropolitan Opera is because he's a major-league fundraiser. Opera companies consume enormous amounts of $.

Anonymous Moshe (London) December 05, 2017 7:46 PM  

The point I wanted to make earlier (I'm probably talking to an empty room at this stage)

VD:
You are not responsible for the actions of others of your kind



When a large part of (((my group))) is complicit in something immoral - in varying degrees - it seems to me that the right response from those that aren't personally complicit isn't just to ignore it, but to take some concrete action to reverse it, or at the very least, to clearly protest it.

There are so many ways to put this (Did I mention I wished I could type and put thoughts into writing quickly?), I'll try this one.


Thought Experiment*

If someone said to a Third Reich Nazi, "Why have you killed groups of German Jews who you surely know didn't personally participate in the "stab in the back", or other Jewish crimes?" - he might respond:

"But what did those "innocent" Jews ever do to differentiate themselves from those Jews who were harming us? When did they ever speak out publicly against their brothers? After our people gave them emancipation, allowed them entry to all our professions and institutions in an unprecedented way, when did they ever as a group speak up for the Traditional values and rights of the German people against the traitors, the profiteers and the decadents of the Weimar republic?"

"When did they ever publicly declare that they accept the right of the German people to lead themselves, that some pushback by the right wing / early Nazis against ethnic outsiders in political, business and social leadership positions was a legitimate and fair step - that even if not allowed these positions of power they were still being treated remarkably well by historical / international standards?"

"They could see it all happening, all the economic, social and moral disaster, caused disproportionately by their own brethren - and never once spoke out FOR the indigenous ethnic population, its needs and its values"

I'm not saying we would fully accept that answer - maybe some would - but it's hard to deny that he would have a point.



That's why I feel I need to do more.

I will keep thinking and asking to find an answer (as to what to do practically)

I am for real.


*I may have made some factual error in historical details - I am sure many here know the era better than I do. I'm just trying to convey a general point, relevant to today's situation in the West

Anonymous Moshe (London) December 05, 2017 7:52 PM  

((( bob kek mando ))) :

Jonah etc




I think I understand what you are saying.

I will re-read that Chapter and think about your comment, and get back to you

Thanks for explaining what you meant

Anonymous Haxo Angmaerk December 05, 2017 8:14 PM  

the Jews were merely pruning off some of their more fragrant blossoms...

in order to intensify their attack on White masculinity and the White birthrate.

I'll grant, though, that even from their viewpoint the purge may have gotten out-of-control.

Blogger James Dixon December 05, 2017 9:41 PM  

> ...it seems to me that the right response from those that aren't personally complicit isn't just to ignore it, but to take some concrete action to reverse it, or at the very least, to clearly protest it.

Protesting is enough. No one expects a single person to be able to change the actions of multitudes.

Blogger Lazarus December 05, 2017 9:49 PM  

Moshe (London) wrote:That's why I feel I need to do more.

I will keep thinking and asking to find an answer (as to what to do practically)


Support Feiglin and perform aliya.

Anonymous ZhukovG December 05, 2017 10:16 PM  

@Moshe (London): If you are in London, UK I can't help but wonder if that isn't becoming an increasingly hostile place for you and yours.

Have you considered taking advantage of the 'Right of Return'? Not saying you should hop on the first plane. But if I was a Jew in the UK the warm sunny climate in Israel would definitely appeal to me. I would be looking at possible job opportunities and preparing accordingly.

Blogger S. Misanthrope December 05, 2017 11:21 PM  

A friend who's a classical conductor confirms- the entire industry had been waiting for at least 3 decades for this to come out. Every. Body. Knew.

Blogger ((( bob kek mando ))) - ( Real Men correct Nate ... 's ... speeling ◕‿◕ ... ◔ ⌣ ◔ ... ◕‿↼ Passive Aggressively ) December 05, 2017 11:31 PM  

105. S. Misanthrope December 05, 2017 11:21 PM
Every. Body. Knew.



and everybody who knew and did nothing is Evil.

the same as with the Catholic Clergy who helped conceal the crimes of pedophile priests and enabled them to continue raping.

this includes your 'classical conductor friend'.

Anonymous tublecane December 06, 2017 1:35 AM  

@93-"and saying 'watch me beat off into this fern' isn't criminal"

Actually doing it in front of someone is indecent exposure at least. Not that you'd necessarily get prosecuted, but I wouldn't try.

That being said, some of these men have been accused of rape-rape. If no one's going to jail, it's not for lack of alleged criminal acts.

Blogger Shimshon December 06, 2017 1:59 AM  

@59 "because they know that theirs is a Just and Merciful God. and if the Goyim repent, why, God might *not* punish the Goyim."

Bob, I must thank you for this concise refutation of Christianity.

God did send gentile prophets to you guys. Bilaam is the greatest example of such. His prophecy is said in the Talmud to be on the level of Moses. He was a detestable pervert who did his utmost to curse the Jews.

Yonah, at least, once he got over his frustration, did go to Nineveh and call for repentance, which its king heeded.

Blogger Revelation Means Hope December 06, 2017 3:07 AM  

Those who did nothing....like what exactly? Report them to the jewish local District Attorney who probably is a huge opera supporter and is second cousin by marriage to the perpetrator? And you watch the person who was molested follow the person who molested them around from city, to city, and orchestra and another orchestra. And you think - yeah, he looks like he was REALLY hurt by this person who he just can't stay away from.

Normal, psychologically stable people are disgusted by the behavior of the weak who voluntarily return to their abusers. The woman who refuses to leave the man who viciously beats her, etc. We may pity them, but it certainly doesn't cause the same level of outrage.

For the deliberately obtuse, I am not referencing those who have been abused at a young age and when they truly are helpless.

Anonymous Mntngt December 06, 2017 3:16 AM  

@ Moshe

Understand that what you are feeling and going is of vital importance in the spiritual realm and will have impact there. Embrace the travail. There are many instances in the old testament of individuals repenting and travailing on behalf of their people and forefathers. Read Daniel chapter 9. As you go through this ( wearing the sackcloth ) and others whom the Lord has chosen for this task reach critical mass there will be a move in the spiritual realm bringing about a corporate change of heart among your ((( people ))). Moshe, God bless you in the name of our Lord and savior Jesus the Christ

Blogger Revelation Means Hope December 06, 2017 3:25 AM  

Next step, in these cases, is the punish ALL who helped cover up. The MET opera and those with it covered up?
No more broadcasts, no more tickets, no more DVDs, no more CDs will be bought. Which is a shame, because our local classical stations broadcast the MET every week.

Shame and ridicule anyone else who supports the artistic company. "Oh, they fired him, and you can't punish the hundreds of other artists who did nothing wrong!"

Yes, yes I will punish them and now I'm questioning your utter lack of morals yourself. Get further away from me and my family, as it looks like we can't trust you to report any disgusting behavior yourself.

The most ironic thing, rhetoric mixed with dialectic and passion but not foaming mouthed anger....gets results like I wouldn't have expected in my blue pill days.
Vaccinations
Homeschooling
Immigration
Women's ordination as Pastors

you name it, both my wife and I get numbers of people coming up and expressing how impressed they were with the arguments and how relieved they are that someone else has common sense - and the guts to take a public stance on something controversial.

Just a couple hours ago, hosting our church board meeting at our home, I was able to first shock and then convince the church board about how slyly evil Hollywood is - using the example of "Let It Go" from the movie Frozen. (Thanks Vox)

Anonymous map December 06, 2017 5:27 AM  

James Levine...

Kiddy Fiddler on the Roof

Blogger LP9 December 06, 2017 5:00 PM  

Edit: when I used the terms fire and chaos, I mean twitter triggering and the media in a tiZzy, I am utterly not invoking voilence or harm of any kind. It is hilarious for Levine to Matt lauer to these other jokers, its probably all a lie and ploy to get ratings meaning nothing took place at all.

I meant fire, chaos, madness in the manner of the letter of the law and within that scope and the power of the pen and that all this is; women and their words of accusations, they are outing themselves and burning down their own sources of income, silence was the best now every damn day, its a new perv story, zero compassion.

Compassion for children and the under 25 group b/c they dont know what the hell they are doing, they are not yet capable on a cerebral level to be making any decisions. But to each their own.

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